East African Business Week
Dr. Bob Cathers, is a business leader, speaker, writer and pastor. Based in Los Angeles California, Dr. Cathers has written many books among which is best selling Hope and Vision. He is also a leading consultant and advisor of cutting-edge business leaders and corporations in the United States. Dr. Cathers shared some of his deep-rooted insights with Business Week’s Stephen Asiimwe after speaking at a Business Conference in Kampala and below are the excerpts.
You are both a pastor and business man, how do you manage the two?
Two thirds of the New Testament (In the Bible) is about finances. Jesus did not choose religious leaders as his disciples but chose business people: ultimately, his apostles.
When you study the scriptures closely, you see how intertwined finances are with other subjects.
The majority of blessings are financial blessings.
To me it is very natural to be a pastor and a businessman. I am almost concerned about pastors who are not businessmen.
This is your first time in this continent. What is your mission to Africa?
My calling from a spiritual perspective is not as a pastor but an Apostle. When you are referred to in these terms, many people think of them simply as titles, but Apostles are men and women who carry great authority and command.
Apostles were not taken from the spiritual community but were taken from the military community.
An Apostle was a military commander who would go to a territory not to conquer but to change the culture of the community.
My annointing as an apostle is in righteousness by grace and finance.
My desire for Africa is to create a righteousness consciousness in the realm of finances.
How did you see Africa in this vision?
In 2004, I got a prophecy that I would speak as an Apostle to the business community and do seminars and that it would come out of a need. I see the need in Africa and I want to change the finance culture.
What financial culture exists in Africa that needs to change?
For the short time I have been in Africa, I can see a lot of one-dimensional thinking.
And even in the spiritual business community, the perspective of sowing and reaping (Mainly spoken in the scriptures for planting fields and getting harvests for business), is used in churches for tithing and giving.
I am a believer in tithing and giving, but I do not think people here have separated the two - that is one area I would like to bring revelation and truth.
How has the sowing failed in the spiritual?
In my experience I have heard people ask why they have not prospered even though they were tithing. Malachi 3:10 is specific.
The tithe opens the windows of heaven meaning the pouring out of rain onto the land.
It does not matter how much rain comes - nothing can grow where nothing is planted, regardless of how much it has rained.
Tithing was not considered planting in the bible. Tithing came from increase from the reaping of harvest. People tithed from what they had planted creating blessings for the next harvest.
I believe we have to plant in our businesses and as God blesses the businesses, we tithe from our increase.
These principles are all in the scriptures. I believe it happens quite accidentally when pastors take up offerings at church, they usually talk about giving during the offertory.
This is not bad in itself, but if the majority of the teachings in the Bible are not taught, then people will think it is that aspect of finances.
They will partially obey the scriptures when it comes to financial wisdom. Isaac, Abraham’s son, sowed in famine and reaped a hundred fold.
He knew where he sowed, where the seed was growing and he knew where to get it at the time of harvest.
Here, we have no record of Isaac tithing at all. It is possible he tithed. But his only sowing was to the field.
How is the teaching impacting your congregation?
In my experience after many years of pastoring, many were tithing with no benefits. I went through the Bible from Genesis to Revelation and during offering times I would teach everything the Bible said about finances. The good, the bad and the ugly!
The majority of Biblical financial teaching tends to be about personal business, savings and personal investments and as we taught these truths, our people invested in real estate, stock markets and achieved savings.
What we noticed was that in the two congregations I pastored in different cities, people began to prosper. More people bought homes, took out investments and business risks.
And even though we spoke less on giving and more on business finance our giving sky-rocketed as people begun to prosper.
One of the biggest hindrances I found to people believing in divine prosperity was that people believed that God wanted them to prosper, so that they could do something good with it (money).
This isn’t bad and there is a place for it. But it creates a wrong mindset about why God wants to give you finances.
What does God desire for us?
God wants us to prosper because He is good and because He loves us. That is first and foremost.
I was invited to come to Africa to do a seminar on biblical finances. All of the businessmen there were powerfully affected and impacted.
They have asked me to come back and do a larger and longer seminar on Biblical finances.
I believe that their desire after hearing what I taught is my answer.
Business Week will occasionally publish some of Dr. Cather's teachings on business, stocks, real estate and saving. He is scheduled to speak in Kampala, Dar es Salaam and Nairobi later in the year.